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Can someone verify if this is true:

Ibn Al-Arabi said, “Lineage is an expression referring to the mixture of fluids between a male and a female from a religious legal point of view. However, if this union (between male and female) occurs through disobedience (fornication) then the resulting child is not considered part of a person’s true lineage. That is why a daughter born from zina is not mentioned in Allah’s saying, ‘Prohibited to you (for marriage) are: your mothers and daughters’ (Surah 4:23) because she is not considered a daughter according to the most authentic teaching of our religion.. If there is no legal lineage then there is no legal relationship; for zina does not prohibit (from marriage) the daughter of the mother (you committed zina with) nor the mother of a woman (you committed zina with). […]I (Qurtubi) said: The scholars have differed on the permissibility of a man marrying his daughter who was the result of an adulterous relationship; or for that matter marrying his sister or granddaughter who was the result of zina. Some prohibited this type of relationship; among them was Ibn Al Qasim, which is also the saying of Abu Hanifa and his companions. Others however allowed this type of marriage such as Abdul Malik Al Maj’shun, which is also the saying of Al-Shafi’i. This was detailed in the explanation of Surah 4 (Al Nisa’).

Tafsir Al Qurtubi 25:54

Al Maududi seemed to have mentioned this and showed his disproval:

The prohibition about daughter also applies to the daughter of the son and the daughter of the daughter. There is, however, a difference of opinion in regard to a girl born of an illicit relationship. Imam Abu Hanifah, Imam Malik and lmam Ahmad-bin-Hanbal (may Allah bless them all) are of the opinion that she too is unlawful like the lawful daughter, but Imam Shafi 'i does not consider an illegitimate daughter unlawful. But the very idea is repugnant that one should marry a girl about whom one has the knowledge that she is of one's own seed.

Tafsir Al Maududi 4:23

If this is true, why did Imam Al Shafi'i permit it. On what basis from the Qur'an and Sunnah? Or was it simply ijtihad?

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The Shafiis would say the basis is simply the following:

The Prophet (SAW) said: "The child is for (the owner of) the bed and the stone is for the person who commits illegal sexual intercourse." (Sahih Bukhari)

The general rule of Islam is that an adulterer is not given attribution to his child. All the 4 mazhabs and the scholars would agree to this, and they would give an adulterer none of the rights that a father would have over his daughter.

Imam Ash-Shafii would use this to show that the verse prohibiting marriage to daughters does not apply because she is not his daughter.

The others would say the prohibition of marriage still applies even if he does not get any of the other rights of being a father.

Their purpose is not to say such a marriage is good or fine. It is simply in their firm rejection of any legal relationship between a man and his child born from Zina so they do not accept any reference to "daughter" as referring to a daughter from Zina.

But, to repeat, the other three schools of thought forbid such a marriage due to the plain meaning of the verse in the Quran.

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  • Actually except with the Shafi'i maddhab we'e such a marriage is only makrooh all others regard it haram. As the qur'an prohibits relationship between parents and their children. And this I'd say a stronger argument than concluding something from a sahih hadith doesn't necessarily support this.
    – Medi1Saif
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 16:10
  • @Medi1Saif Yeah, I don't disagree. I only meant to show what the Shafiis would argue.
    – The Z
    Commented May 10, 2021 at 8:42
  • @TheZ - I really do not think that the Hadith of Sahih Bukhari you mentioned explicitly says that marriage with such kind of daughter is permissible.
    – Ren
    Commented May 10, 2021 at 13:04
  • @Ren That's not what I claimed. Rather, the hadith states the child is not attributed to the adulterer.
    – The Z
    Commented May 10, 2021 at 22:54
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This slander has been happening for a long time against imam shafi as well as the shafi fiqh so I well destroy this absolute lie

1.The reason why he declerd it disliked and not Haram was because there was a difference of opinion during the time about the ruling evidence:Mawardi cited another understanding from Abu Ishaq al-Marwazi’s student, Qadi Abu Hamid. According to him, Imam Shafi’i ruled it was disliked because of the differences of opinion on the matter [khurujan min al-khilaf]

2.It can only happen if there is a possibly that she is the daughter however if they are sure that the daughter is his it becomes impermissible evidence:In Al-Hawi Al-Kabir 11/393, Mawardi related from Abu Ishaq al-Marwazi (Know to have a great reputation among the shafis)that it is permissible as her being from him is only a mere possibility. However, his marrying her would be unlawful if that were a defiantly confirmed fact. Marwazi gives the example of a man and woman being imprisoned together from the time of their intercourse until the child is born. He says if a child came from such a situation, it would be unlawful.

3.I recommend everyone to first study shafi fiqh also have to remember that we have no quote from Imam shafi to confirm if he believed this. I hope everyone has a nice day and Salam.

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