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Why does the Shafi'i Madhab permit killing all non Muslim adult males during Jihad? Is it just because of their disbelief? Isn't that too cruel?

Bidayat al-Mujtahid

Ibn Rushd writes:

They disagreed about the case of hermits cut off from the world, the blind, the chronically ill, the old who cannot fight, the idiot, and the peasants and serfs. ... According to al-Shafi'fs most authentic opinion, all of these categories (of people) are to be put to death.

The Distinguished Jurist's Primer Vol. 1 p. 458 translated by Imran Ahsan Khan Nyazee

Ibn Rushd writes elswhere:

The basis for their disagreement stems from the conflict of the specificity in some traditions with the general implication of (some verses of) the Qur'an, and also the generality of the authentic saying of the Prophet (God's peace and blessings be upon him), "I have been commanded to fight mankind until they say, 'There is no God but Allah.'" The words of the Exalted, "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them", imply the slaying of every nonbeliever whether or not he is a monk, and so does the saying of the Prophet (God's peace and blessings be upon him), "I have been commanded to fight mankind until they say, 'There is no God but Allah'".

The Distinguished Jurist's Primer Vol. 1 p. 458-459 translated by Imran Ahsan Khan Nyazee

Al-Hidayah

A woman, minor, enfeebled old man, an invalid, and a blind man are not to be killed. ... Al-Shafi'i (God bless him) goes against our opinion in the case of the enfeebled old man, the invalid, and the blind. The reason is that permitted killing in his view is based upon unbelief

Al-Hidayah Vol. 2 p. 293 translated by Imran Ahsan Khan Nyazee

Reliance of the Traveller

It is permissible to kill old men ... and monks.

Reliance of the Traveller o9.10 translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller

Follow Up Question

Does this mean that not all non combatants are impermissible to kill?

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    Executing adult male disbelieving prisoners is permissible from the Quran and Hadith and all four madhabs, the only difference is that the Shafi'is do not include old men among the exceptions who can not be killed. Your queries "Can't these quotes from Ash Shafi'i permit terrorism?" and "Isn't that too cruel?" are irrelevant, we are an academic site not for apologetics or fitting Islam to desired political views.
    – UmH
    May 7 at 17:49
  • No, the other madhabs don't allow killing monks, the blind, old men, chronically ill, farmers and generally males who don't fight as well (only the Shafi'is differ) so I'm not sure where you got that from. Also, many hadith show that killing non combatants is not allowed (Musnad Ahmad 6643, Sunan Abu Dawud 2608, Tafsir Al Tabari 2:190, Sunan Sa’īd ibn Mansūr 2466 etc).
    – Affan
    May 7 at 18:04
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    I don't think that this is restricted on the Shafi'i maddhab. And one must be aware that prominent scholars from al-Andalus such as Ibn 'Abd al-Barr didn't consider imam Ahmad as a faqih, so they don't consider the hanbali school of fiqh when discussing views of different scholars and maddhabs. Maybe ibn Rushd the grandson was following this path too.
    – Medi1Saif
    May 7 at 21:50
  • @Medi1Saif I was reading Imam Al Qurtubi's tafsir on a verse and he mentioned that there was a consensus on the prohibition of killing monks and old men which is why I'm a bit confused. Also, doesn't this ruling contradict the hadith from both the Prophet and Abu Bakr prohibiting killing old men?
    – Affan
    May 8 at 2:16
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Ruling on prisoners:

Regarding prisoners, the stance of the majority including the four madhabs is that caliph has the right to do with prisoners according to what suits the interest of the Muslims and he has the right between effecting on them execution, enslavement, ransom or release. Just as your citation states:

The majority of the jurists maintained that the imam has different types of choices regarding the prisoners of war including their pardon, enslavement, execution, demand for ransom, and the imposition of jizya (poll tax) on them.

The criterion of execution:

The people who can be killed as prisoners are mostly the same as those who can be killed in the war. They must be:

  • Harbi. And not musta’min.
  • Kafir.
  • Those to whom dawah has reached they have refused both Islam and Jizyah.

Who can not be executed:

  • The women and children - this is agreed upon by the four madhabs. The exception to this is where they take part in the fighting, in this case it is permitted to kill them during the fight and according to the majority also permitted to execute them after they have been captured.

  • Old men, and others who fall into this ruling such as monks, handicapped etc. There is difference on them.

Evidence of the Shafi'is on executing old men and others who come under this category:

  • Quran and many ahadith permit executing adult male prisoners in general and do not differentiate between the old and the young:

    فاقتلوا المشركين حيث وجدتموهم

    kill the polytheists wherever you find

    Quran 9:5

    فإذا لقيتم الذين كفروا فضرب الرقاب

    So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks

    Quran 47:4

    ما كان لنبي أن يكون له أسرى حتى يثخن

    It is not for a prophet to have captives [of war] until he inflicts a massacre

    Quran 8:67

    وأقر قريظة ومن عليهم، حتى حاربت قريظة، فقتل رجالهم

    (The Prophet) allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places till they fought against the Prophet (ﷺ) again. He then killed their men.

    Sahih Bukhari

    عرضنا على النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم يوم قريظة فكان من أنبت قتل، ومن لم ينبت خلي سبيله

    We were presented to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) on the day of (the battle of) Quraizah. Whoever had pubic hair was killed and whoever did not was left to his way.

    Jami at-Tirmidhi

  • There are explicitly permitted by some ahadith such as:

    اقتلوا شيوخ المشركين واستحيوا شرخهم

    Kill the old men who are polytheists, but spare their children

    Jami at-Tirmidhi


Ref:

وقال الشافعي، في أحد قوليه، وابن المنذر: يجوز قتل الشيوخ؛ لقول النبي - صلى الله عليه وسلم -: «اقتلوا شيوخ المشركين، واستحيوا شرخهم» . رواه أبو داود، والترمذي، وقال: حديث حسن صحيح. ولأن الله تعالى قال: {فاقتلوا المشركين} [التوبة: 5] . وهذا عام يتناول بعمومه الشيوخ. قال ابن المنذر: لا أعرف حجة في ترك قتل الشيوخ يستثنى بها من عموم قوله: {فاقتلوا المشركين} [التوبة: 5] . ولأنه كافر لا نفع في حياته، فيقتل كالشاب

المغني لابن قدامة

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  • The reference for explicitly killing old men is a daif hadith as opposed to stronger hadith that killing old men is not allowed. Muwatta Malik 971, abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonline/2016/04/12/… abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonline/2016/04/03/…
    – Affan
    May 8 at 7:51
  • Also, why did Imam Al Qurtubi say there was a consensus on prohibiting the killing of old men? He writes: Ash-Shafi'i has two positions: one is that of the majority and the second is that old men and monks should be killed. The sound position is the first because of what Abu Bakr said to Yazid [referring to Muwatta Malik 971]. No one opposes it and there is a consensus to back it up. Also it is not permitted to kill anyone who does not fight or help the enemy, like women. Tafsir al-Qurtubi Q 2:190 v. 1. p. 492.
    – Affan
    May 8 at 7:57
  • The first ahadith seems to be a mistake as it does not have anything to do with war, maybe you mean this hadith which is also weak. The hadith of Muwatta is also severed in chain AFAIK and you should establish its authenticity. The last two you have cited are misinterpreted as they are about those who can not fight i.e. women and children.
    – UmH
    May 8 at 8:06
  • Did Imam Al Qurtubi make a mistake? Also, what about what Ibn Abbas said dailyhadith.abuaminaelias.com/2012/09/18/… and Abu Bakr sunnah.com/urn/509710
    – Affan
    May 8 at 8:09
  • There is difference among the madhabs precisely because there is evidence to either side and either side can be argued forever so I am not sure what you want from me. Can you prove that Yahya ibn Saeed heard this about Abu Bakr from a reliable source, because AFAIK he wasn't alive at that point. Can you cite the chain for the interpretation of Ibn Abbas and prove its authenticity? Did Ali ibn Abi Talha meet Ibn Abbas? Is Abu Saleh considered Thiqa?
    – UmH
    May 8 at 8:20

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