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What does idle talk mean as I’ve seen it referenced to singing and dancing sometimes but then I heard that it is when you talk about useless things (can’t remember where I heard this from). If it is about talking about “useless” things can we only talk about things related to Islam with friends and colleagues because it’s haram to do otherwise?

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Our toungues are the biggest source of sins: lying, backbiting, tale telling, etc. The more you talk the more likely you are to commit these major sins, knowingly or unknowingly. Idle talk is useless talk that has no real value, its a waste of time, distracts you from the rememberence of Allah, and hardens one's heart making you less likely to feel the sweetness / enjoyment / peacefulness of worship. It makes worship feel a burden. One can't classify it as haraam, except that it often leads to sinful conversation.

Some talk is necessary: coordination, asking for help, and much is even worship : seeking Islamic knowledge, etc.

This article covers useless talk in more detail: https://www.dawahskills.com/featured-posts/how-to-avoid-useless-conversations-and-idle-talks/

I also recommend reading https://www.dawateislami.net/bookslibrary/en/silent-prince

May Allah save you from idle talk and give you full understanding of this matter.

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  • So throughout your life you can never idle talk even with family and friends you can only talk about worship? – user36230 Mar 22 '20 at 14:14
  • I never said never. Truly idle talk has little benefit and typically leads to sinful discussion, so just avoid it in excess. Read the content I referenced for a better understanding, and I'll happily answer further questions إن شاء الله. – moinudin Mar 22 '20 at 17:41
  • So is it permissible under moderation is what you are saying? – user36230 Mar 22 '20 at 18:43
  • There is no limit to what is permissible. I am merely discouraging you from wasting time in an abundance of useless talk like most people do. – moinudin Mar 23 '20 at 14:51
  • Here's a simple example of how common talk can lead to sin. You serve me food and ask me if I enjoyed it. Sounds like an innocent question? If I didn't like it, what do I say? If I am honest, I would likely hurt your feelings. So instead to be nice I said I enjoyed it. I just lied, which is a major sin. – moinudin Mar 23 '20 at 14:53
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In Most Tafsir book, they explain the word laghoo in Surah Mu’meenoon and Surah luqman (idle or vain talk) from the narration of Ibn Abbas that this is referring to singing and music! In one narration also explain the music is the voice of Shaitan as in Surah Ban Israeel/Israa’

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  • So only singing/music not actual talking? – user36230 Mar 24 '20 at 13:53
  • Yes! According to the Tafsir of Ibn Abbas r.a. – Farouk Zakeri Mar 24 '20 at 14:39

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