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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%27ab_al-Ahbar

Ka'b :Amir al-Muminin, you ought to write your will because you will die in three days.
Umar : How do you know that ?
Ka'b : I found it in the Book of God, the Taurat (Old Testament).
Umar : By God do you find Umar Ibn al-Khattab in the Old Testament?
Ka'b : By God, no. But I found your description in the Old Testament and your time is coming to an end.
Umar : But I do not feel any pain or sickness

On the following day Ka'b came to Umar and said : Amir al-Mu'minin, one day has passed and you have only two more days.

The following day Ka'b came to him and said : Amir al-Mu'minin, two days have gone and you have only one day and one night remaining.

The following morning Abu Lulu appeared carrying a dagger with two heads and a handle in the middle. He hit Umar six times, one of them hit the Caliph in the navel, killing him.

Note: Torah is only the first 5 books of Judaism, not the whole "old testament"

What did Ka'ab actually saw in Torah? Encoded message? Any historical hadists on this?

Note 2: I am not a muslim. I am an agnostic examining supernatural claims of religions.

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    Note: The Torah is the Old Testament. Genesis is the first of the five books, but the five books together constitute the Torah/Old Testamant. – Ansari Oct 2 '13 at 15:09
  • Is that muslim definition? Because there are 39 books in Christians' old testament. Torah is just the first 5. – user4951 Oct 3 '13 at 2:31
  • Also, note that certain Muslim groups specially Shiite held Kaab as the co conspirator for Killing Hazrat Umar RA – Islam Oct 3 '13 at 7:48
  • @J.Chang The Torah is the first five books of Moses, which Christians might refer to as the Pentateuch (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy). The Christian "Old Testament" is much bigger than that, and in Judaism is called the "TaNaKh". – Ahmed Sep 3 '18 at 9:48
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It should be noted, that the hadith in your question is not Authentic, it is false. Ka'b never predicted that Umar would die in three days, furthermore the description of Umar and when he would die is not in the Tauraat.

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  • Then it shouldn't be in wikipedia right? – user4951 Oct 3 '13 at 15:41
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    @JimThio Right. Also many things are in wkipedia, it should be noted that wikipedia is not a very reliable source to learn about Islam. – مجاهد Oct 3 '13 at 17:09
  • Would you name your source? – user4951 Oct 4 '13 at 2:57
  • sunnah.com is an authentic source @Jim tho – Islam Oct 4 '13 at 9:15
  • i disagree completely. Wikipedia is an excellent source to learn islam, it gives you an unbiased picture that sites run by muslims do not. – Ubaid Hassan Jul 4 '19 at 16:50

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