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I understand that as Muslims, you believe that absolutely nothing happens without the will of Allah. For example, if you take painkiller, it will only work if Allah wills it.

What I don't understand is that as Muslims, you've been warned by Allah to not drink alcohol, because you go out of control. That's true and that is fair.

What I don't understand is that, that alcohol will only make you drunk if Allah wills it to make you drunk. So why warn, people not to drink it, and then will the alcohol to make them drunk?

Why not allow people to drink alcohol and will the alcohol to not make them drunk?

For example, why warn people that if they drink alcohol, it's benefits are not worth the side effects, when the alcohol will only make you drunk when god wills it to make you drunk?

  • God leaves your choices to you-- doesn't temper with them and that's the beauty of it. waiting for someone to answer to comment on, this is a lengthy answer. Your first line narrowing it all down the wrong way. – ashley Jun 16 '13 at 17:58
  • you should learn God's will first, before say about God's will – Ahmad Azwar Anas Jun 17 '13 at 2:57
  • The same for why shouldn't kill people, or commit any sins. – user2350 Jun 17 '13 at 23:12
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God has made rules that govern the physical universe. Laws of physics are manifestation of God's will. Similarly He has made human and the way that he designed it, alcohol will mess up his normal thinking. Since, as humans, our most differentiating factor is that we can think and reason, anything that hampers it, is warned. A fire will burn, although He can tell it, not to. This world is made as a test, so there will be things that will be harmful and we will be tested to keep away from them.

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That Allah guarantees that the world works, that is when you light a fire it burns, that when you drink water it slakes your thirst was fully thought out & explicated by the Ash'arite Theologian Al-Ghazali - he called it Occasionalism.

Allah guarantees the laws of this world, and does not change them. We understand them as the laws of nature. For Allah to make alcohol not intoxicating means firstly that He will have to break that guarantee - and He does not break his own Word; and secondly if alcohol did not make people intoxicated it could no longer, in all truth be considered as alcohol.

The question is why are intoxicants forbidden: Firstly one can make errors of judgement whilst intoxicated; secondly because it can become an addiction and finally because in extreme cases it is a poison.

As you point out during their time in this material world, muslims are warned off drinking alcohol, because there is both good & bad to wine, but the bad is greater than the good - that is it is not intrinsically & wholly bad - as pointed out in Surat Al-Baqarah 2:219 (The Cow):

They ask thee concerning wine and gambling. Say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit." They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs.

But after leaving this life - it is not forbidden, but encouraged. But notice the Wine here is mixed with Kafur, or Pure & Holy.

Surat Al-'Insān 76:5 (The Man)

As to the Righteous, they shall drink of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Kafur,

Surat Al-'Insān 76:21 (The Man)

Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy.

  • Do you have any authentic Islamic text where God gives this guarantee of the laws of this world? – user3550 Jun 17 '13 at 8:24
  • Tahāfut al-Falāsifa (The incoherence of philosophers) by Al-Ghazali. – Mozibur Ullah Jun 17 '13 at 9:21
  • So just to sum up, are you saying that Allah has set everything in motion by setting many physical laws in this world such as the laws of physics, and he will not interfere with these laws? So with the law of alcohol, a person will get drunk, and it is not a real-time will of allah, but a will of allah because it's a law set by allah that the effect of alcohol will make you lose control? Is that basically what you're saying? – user3550 Jun 17 '13 at 13:57
  • I'm not saying that. Al-Ghazali says that Occasionalism isn't about just creating the laws & setting everything in motion but also keeping everything in motion too. Paraphrasing Al-Ghazalis example of this is putting cotton wool in a candle flame will not burn unless Allah wills it. In other words he guarantees/wills cause & effect. It is in real-time. The effect of alcohol is not only to make people lose control, it evaporates, it's used as a solvent amongst others. – Mozibur Ullah Jun 17 '13 at 14:22
  • So you're saying that Allah has to will each and every effect of a cause in real-time (so to speak), otherwise everything will fall apart?, and the laws always work because of Allahs guarantee, and they will always work because Allah has guaranteed to will the laws to work every single time because Allah will not break his guarantee? – user3550 Jun 18 '13 at 15:15
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God knows what will happen, but doesn't make it happen for you. If you're drinking, you're doing so to get what you expect out of it. If drinking out of an addiction against your will, then got to make your mind to stop it and God helps you. Helps your mood, see the right way to go about it, ... .

Alcohol isn't strictly forbidden BTW. There are cases the physician approves and is alright in those cases. From what I know, unhealthy food is forbidden in Islam to the degree it is so.

Please also read my comment above.

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Every aspect of physical and non-physical laws have been created by Allah and hence that is how our existence is possible. He has enabled these laws to operate within an environment that he has also created. Space and time are fabrics of this environment. As a consequence free will exists within Islam.

Allah doesn't intercede into every cause and effect situation, and this is not why Muslims mention the term "if Allah wills". Muslims are acknowledging the omnipotent and all-knowing characteristic of Allah as the creator of all that is known and unknown, to existence and what might seem as non-existence to us... It is our humbleness and piety to our limited understanding of Allah. Of course, we are not able to understand Allah more than the realm of our human understanding. Admitting this limitation reduces human arrogance into seeking understanding of the extra-existential, but instead on the knowledge within the boundaries of human existence.

  • Furthermore, cause and effect can be argued as a probable relationship in the social world (philosophically speaking). – t1234 Aug 31 '13 at 14:08
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Allah is trying to make some easy doing for us and make some of them as warning to us not to reach, he can stop us automatically not to have the upportunity to do the wrong things but he really wanna see who will not do the wrongs just for the word of Allah only and it by forcing.

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It's nothing to do with Allah.

If alcohol is forbidden because of its effect on humans brains, why it wasn't forbidden at christian ages. did Allah find out bad effects after Jesus?!

It's all about economy and politics.

In very first years of Islam, business of making wine was in hand of enemies. and also the arabs couldn't control him self on drinking. so wine beamed forbidden.

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