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Allah has not created in the heavens nor in the earth what is more magnificent than Ayat Al-Kursi." Sufyan said: "Because Ayat Al-Kursi is the Speech of Allah, and Allah's Speech is greater than Allah's creation of the heavens and the earth."

Ibn Masud(RA) clearly claimed there is no greater creation in the heavens or earth than Ayat Al-Kursi which mentions the heavens and earth in the verse.

If he wasn’t saying it was created

Why didn’t he say there is nothing in the heavens or earth greater than Ayat Al-Kursi?

Does this make him an apostate?

Should he be executed for this?

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  • Ibn Masud considered it valid to swear an oath by the Quran. It is agreed that it is invalid and forbidden to swear by anything from creation, it is only valid to swear by Allah and His Attributes. This is clear evidence that he considered the Quran to be Allah's Attribute and not creation. The report you have quoted does not negate that in any way as it does not explicitly call Ayat al-Kursi a creation rather it is making a comparison that Ayat al-Kursi is greater than the creation.
    – UmH
    Commented May 7 at 5:46
  • He considered Ayat Al-Kursi a creation saying it’s greater than any other. Everyone agrees Quran is Allah’s attribute
    – IbnAqil
    Commented May 7 at 6:27

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Alhamdulillah,

This statement of Ibn Mas'ud is like saying 'Allah is greater than everything,' even though that great thing is created. And Allah, the Most High, is not created.

Also, as has been explained to you in the comments:

Major Premise: It is prohibited to swear an oath by anything from the creation (created things).

Minor Premise: Ibn Mas'ud permitted swearing an oath by the Qur'an.

Conclusion: Therefore, the Qur'an is not created (since Ibn Mas'ud would not permit swearing by a created thing).

The premises are:

  • It is prohibited to swear an oath by created things.
  • Ibn Mas'ud permitted swearing an oath by the Qur'an.

And the logically derived conclusion is:

Therefore, the Qur'an is not created.

The Athar is also explained to you with the quote of Sufyan b. Uyaynah:

"Because Ayat Al-Kursi is the Speech of Allah, and Allah's Speech is greater than Allah's creation of the heavens and the earth."

Al Khallaal also reports from Sufyan b. Uyaynah the following:

قال ابن عيينة: هو هكذا: (ما خلق الله من شيء إلا وآية الكرسي أعظم مما خلق)

Ibn 'Uyaynah said: It is like this: "Allah has not created anything except that Ayat al-Kursi is greater than what He has created."

Ahmad b. Hanbal said:

هذا الحديث: (ما خلق الله من سماء ولا أرض ولا كذا أعظم) فقلت لهم: إن الخلق ههنا وقع على السماء والأرض وهذه الأشياء لا على القرآن لأنه قال: (ما خلق الله من سماء ولا أرض) فلم يذكر: خلق القرآن ههنا.

Ahmad b. Hanbal is explaining that in this particular hadith, when it says "Allah has not created anything greater...", the "creation" being referred to is the heavens, earth and other created things, but it does not mean the Quran is created, since the Quran is not explicitly mentioned as being among the "created" things in this wording.

And Allah knows best!

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