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In Sahih Bukhari,in the 3rd Book (كتاب العلم) in Chapter 39. (The writing of knowledge (باب كِتَابَةِ الْعِلْمِ), 111th Hadith states the following:

Abu Juhaifa said, "I asked Ali, 'Have you got any book (which has been revealed to the Prophet (ﷺ) apart from the Qur'an)?' Ali replied, 'No, except Allah's Book or the power of understanding which has been bestowed (by Allah) upon a Muslim or what is (written) in this sheet of paper (with me).' Abu Juhaifa said, "I asked, 'What is (written) in this sheet of paper?' `Ali replied, it deals with The Diyya (compensation (blood money) paid by the killer to the relatives of the victim), the ransom for the releasing of the captives from the hands of the enemies, and the law that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for the killing of (a disbeliever).

حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ سَلاَمٍ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا وَكِيعٌ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ، عَنْ مُطَرِّفٍ، عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ، عَنْ أَبِي جُحَيْفَةَ، قَالَ قُلْتُ لِعَلِيٍّ هَلْ عِنْدَكُمْ كِتَابٌ قَالَ لاَ، إِلاَّ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ، أَوْ فَهْمٌ أُعْطِيَهُ رَجُلٌ مُسْلِمٌ، أَوْ مَا فِي هَذِهِ الصَّحِيفَةِ‏.‏ قَالَ قُلْتُ فَمَا فِي هَذِهِ الصَّحِيفَةِ قَالَ الْعَقْلُ، وَفَكَاكُ الأَسِيرِ، وَلاَ يُقْتَلُ مُسْلِمٌ بِكَافِرٍ‏.‏

"No, except Allah's Book". Does that mean the only revelation was the Quran and the Sunnah is not a revelation just the practical understanding of the Quran? Would not this information change the concept how we classify which Hadith is Sahih which is not?

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  • Your quote of the hadith is incomplete, the full hadith quote is here. I don't know how you've came to the conclusion that this hadith means that Qur'an is the only revelation and what's the relationship between this and the sunnah and classification of hadith, please elaborate!
    – Medi1Saif
    Oct 12, 2023 at 10:04
  • Sorry, I added the full hadith qoute. How I came to the conclusion? "I asked Ali, 'Have you got any book (which has been revealed to the Prophet (ﷺ) apart from the Qur'an)?' Ali replied, 'No, except Allah's Book or the power of understanding which has been bestowed (by Allah) upon a Muslim or what is (written) in this sheet of paper (with me)." That is what it says. "No, except Allah's Book".
    – Code-G
    Oct 12, 2023 at 16:10
  • The question is, what abu Juhaifa meant with revelation and how 'Ali interpreted it? Because we know that qur'an is the only revelation for Muslims, however hadith can also be understood as such since Allah says that the prophet only speaks the truth and not from his inclination. This hopefully shall be explained in a hadith interpretation.
    – Medi1Saif
    Oct 13, 2023 at 9:36

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The Holy Quran is the only book that was compiled in the time of Ali (a.s). Hadith was written down much later. In this sense, the answer is true, but it doesn't say that all revelation has to be contained in the Quran.

Both, Sunni and Shia scholars, assume that revelation is not only contained in the Quran but it can also be related orally, i.e. in Hadith. Those who categorically reject any revelation outside the Quran (strict Quranists) are a small minority.

It would somehow bite into the tail if you used a hadith to support the thesis that hadith has no value.

So, the answer is, no.

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  • your answer shows that you are have a serious unclarity between hadith and between revelation outside Quran. You wrote "It would somehow bite into the tail if you used a hadith to support the thesis that hadith has no value.". --> can you please point out in my question where I was trying to show that hadith hs no value? Answer: you can't, I did not support such thesis.
    – Code-G
    Mar 4 at 13:01
  • you also wrote: "Those who categorically reject any revelation outside the Quran (strict Quranists) are a small minority." This is false. Correction "Those who categorically reject any HADITH outside the Quran (strict Quranists) are a small minority."
    – Code-G
    Mar 4 at 13:01
  • I used a hadith to support the thesis that there is no revelation outside the Quran. It means I accept hadith. It means I am not Quranist. It means as a Quranist you reject hadith. But if you reject that there is revelation to the Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w) outside the Quran, but accept hadith which are not contradictory to the Quran, it means YOU ARE NOT A QURANIST!!!!!
    – Code-G
    Mar 4 at 13:04
  • May Allah guide you @Jeschu, and may Allah guide all the people here in this platform who are slandering our beloved Prophet (s.a.w.) with fabricated Ahadith.
    – Code-G
    Mar 4 at 13:06
  • There is certainly a good reason to be sceptical with contents that can't be known except by revelation and not mentioned in the Quran. But i.m.o., this hadith does not exclude this because the question was about written documents, and no hadith was written in that time.
    – Jeschu
    Mar 5 at 17:14

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