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From the hadith below:

  • أنَّ ابنَ عمرَ كان يضعُ يدَهُ بيْنَ ثَديَيها ( يعنى الجاريةَ ) وعلى عُجُزِها من فوقِ الثيابِ ويكَشفُ عن ساقِها

It tells that Umar[ra] used to shack the breasts of slavegirls in public in market. What is the authenticity of the hadith? Is it permissible?

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The report has been classed as authentic by al-Albani in Irwa' al-Ghaleel and also by some other scholars. It is an athar about Ibn Umar. Not a 'hadith' (i.e. not something said or done by the Prophet ﷺ nor something done during his lifetime such that his approval can be assumed), and not about Umar (rather it is about his son). The content of the report is that Ibn Umar would look and touch a slave woman when he intended to buy her.

It is permissible to touch a slave woman when buying her. This is customary and necessary as it is done to detect any physical defects or to verify qualities which are used to appraise the price which is going to be paid. Just like one can examine an expensive house, vehicle, furniture, dress or even fruits and vegetables which they wish to buy, they can also examine the slaves whom they intend to buy.

It is considered permissible because of this necessity, similar to how it is permitted to look when proposing marriage, or when witnessing Zina, or when performing medical treatment etc. As for the extent of what can be seen or touched it is disagreed upon as covered under your question on the 'awrah of a slave woman. And in this report it is stated that Ibn Umar touched the slave from behind a cloth barrier.

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قال: "ولا بأس بأن يمس ذلك إذا أراد الشراء، وإن خاف أن يشتهي" كذا ذكره في المختصر، وأطلق أيضا في الجامع الصغير ولم يفصل. قال مشايخنا رحمهم الله: يباح النظر في هذه الحالة وإن اشتهى للضرورة، ولا يباح المس إذا اشتهى أو كان أكبر رأيه ذلك؛ لأنه نوع استمتاع، وفي غير حالة الشراء يباح النظر والمس بشرط عدم الشهوة.

Hidayah sharḥ Bidayat al-Mubtadi

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I am surprised by the answer given by UmH. He says

It is permissible to touch a slave woman when buying her. This is customary and necessary as it is done to detect any physical defects or to verify qualities which are used to appraise the price which is going to be paid. Just like one can examine an expensive house, vehicle, furniture, dress or even fruits and vegetables which they wish to buy, they can also examine the slaves whom they intend to buy.

I believe according to Quran and Sunnah, a master cannot touch a female captive without her permission or marriage. But here it is said a non master can touch a woman even before he buys her. isn't the person a stranger for her ? what is the ruling of touching a strange woman(non mahram) in Islam, that too without her consent ? Equating woman with a commodity like vehicle, furniture etc is defaming woman and not giving the status that Islam give to woman.

Now that slavery is not there, these type of rulings will help non-muslims degrade Islam, where as these rulings have nothing to do with Quran and Sunnah. And in the event of sects like ISIS, who claim that it is ok to reintroduce slavery, gain power, they will use these to unnecessarily torture woman.

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  • Your personal beliefs are not relevant here. We are a site for sharing knowledge on the topic of Islam, which includes all interpretations thereof not just the ones you personally believe in. We are not for pushing personal opinions on others or arguing over who is more correct.
    – goldPseudo
    Dec 3 at 3:37
  • Islam is based on Quran and Sunnah of prophet(s.a). Here you can see who is pushing personal understanding that a non mahram woman can be touched just like a commodity when there is no basis for this in Quran and Sunnah.
    – Shafeek
    Dec 3 at 3:40

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