on shark tank you often see deals where an investor say I'll give you $100k as debt. But i'd like 5% equity in company as well.
equity is taken right away.
debt is paid over time.
from one perspective it looks like I'm giving X and asking for X+1.
But from another perspective I'm not asking for any interest on money, loan won't compound. It's not something that will tie anyone down perpetually.
Also another way to look at it say you can say I will loan you 100k but ill buy 5% for $1. and all the sudden this sounds lawful.