I tried to search online but I was not able to find answers. I want to know if our beloved Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu'alayhiwassalam) had a third grandson whose name was Muhsin Ibn Ali (Radhi'allahu'anhu), according to authentic Sunni sources. Is Muhsin Ibn Ali (Radhi'allahu'anhu) considered a grandson of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu'alayhiwassalam) by Sunnis?


Imam ad-Dhahbi quoted in his short biography of Fatimah bint Rassuli Allah () فاطمة بنت رسول الله -in Siiyar a'laam an-Nubalaa' سير أعلام النبلاء the following: In the following I'm translating from Arabic language. As these translations are of my own take them with the necessary care.

وقال ابن عبد البر : دخل بها بعد وقعة أحد . فولدت له الحسن ، والحسين ، ومحسنا ، وأم كلثوم ، وزينب .
Ibn Abd al-Barr said: Her -with 'Ali- marriage was consumed after the incident of Uhud. She bore him Hassan, Hussein, Mohsen, Umm Kulthum, and Zainab.

Ibn Kathir quoted in his history al-Bidyah wa an-Nihayah (Volume 7) البداية والنهاية the following:

قال الإمام أحمد: حدثنا حجاج، ثنا إسرائيل، عن أبي إسحاق، عن هانئ بن هانئ، عن علي قال: لما ولد الحسن جاء رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال: « أروني ابني، ما سميتموه؟ »
Imam Ahmad said: Hajjaj infomred us, Israel informed us, on the authority of Abu Ishaq, on the authority of Haani' Bin Haani', on the authority of 'Ali who said:
When Al-Hassan was born, the Messenger of God, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, came and said: «Show me my son, what you called him? »
فقلت: سميته حربا.
فقال: « بل هو حسن ».
I said: I called it him Harb (war).
He said: "Rather, he is Hassan (good)."
فلما ولد الحسين قال: « أروني ابني، ما سميتموه؟ »
فقلت: سميته حربا.
قال: « بل هو حسين ».
When Al-Hussein was born, he said: “Show me my son. What did you call him? »
I said: I called him Harb (war).
He said, "Rather, he is Hussein."
لما ولد الثالث، جاء النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال: « أروني ابني، ما سميتموه؟ »
فقلت: حربا.
فقال: « بل هو محسن، ثم قال: إني سميتهم اسم ولد هارون شبر وشبير ومشبر »
When the third was born, the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, came and said: «Show me my son, what did you name? »
So I said: Harb (war).
He said: "Rather, he is a Mohsin, then he said: I named them -like- the name of Aaron’s son, Shabar, Shabeer and Mushabir."

He further quoted that ibn Sa'ad mentioned the same narration with a different narrator chain starting with a statement of 'Ali (), but he didn't mention "When the third was born":

قال علي: كنت رجلا أحب الحرب، فلما ولد الحسن هممت أن أسميه حربا، فذكر الحديث بنحو ما تقدم،
Ali said: I was a man who loved war. When Al-Hassan was born, I wanted to call him war, and he mentioned the hadith in the aforementioned manner.

See also in As-Sunan al-Kubra of imam al-Bayhaqi Hadith #12148 here or #11594 here, and in imam Ahmad's al-Musnad #3706.

Ibn Kathir also add:

فأول زوجة تزوجها علي رضي الله عنه فاطمة بنت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم، بنى بها بعد وقعة بدر، فولدت له الحسن وحسينا ويقال: ومحسنا ومات وهو صغير.
The first wife 'Ali, may Allah be pleased with him, married was Fatima, the daughter of the Messenger of Allah, may God bless him and grant him peace. He consummated it after the battle of Badr, and she bore him Hassan and Hussayn, and it is said: And Muhssin who died when he was young.
وولدت له زينب الكبرى، وأم كلثوم، وهذه تزوج بها عمر بن الخطاب كما تقدم.
And she bore him Zaynab al-Kubra and Umm Kulthum, and this was married to Umar ibn al-Khattab, as mentioned earlier.
ولم يتزوج علي على فاطمة حتى توفيت بعد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم بستة أشهر.
Ali did not marry another wife (beside) Fatima until she died six months after the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace.

Some articles say that this son might have been a death birth.

  • Thanks for answer.
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    Jan 29 at 13:00

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