Some Christians (including an individual named Christian Prince) cite a verse which say:

The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

Surah Tawbah (9) : 30

They claim that

Quran is man-made fabricated book. If it were from God, then why would God say, "May Allah destroy them"?

Why didn't it say, "May Allah guide them"?

And they also say:

If this is Allah speaking then it is saying, "May Allah destroy them" to who?

If Allah is talking then he will not say, "May Allah destroy them"

Here Allah praying to who?

Why say, "May God curse you, May God.....whatever etc. That's mean I'm asking God. So obviously I'm not God. And this is exactly what's happening here.

So this is how they claim that Quran is not from God. "If it were from God, God is praying to who?"- This is the main point of their argument.

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    It is a feature of Arabic that Allah can refer to Himself in the third-person. Have a look here: islam.stackexchange.com/questions/900/…, and I hope that answers your question.
    – The Z
    Commented Apr 13, 2020 at 13:33
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    Does this answer your question? Why some verses of Quran refer to God as a plural entity?
    – The Z
    Commented Aug 3, 2020 at 20:09
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    @Rafid Abrar - I really do not know why people listen to that Christian Piss. That idiot is so full of hatred against Islam that he just does not want to listen to Muslism. He is a hell-bound kaffir who will NEVER be guided.
    – Ren
    Commented Feb 18, 2021 at 22:26
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    Addressing oneself in third-person is not unusual in Arabic. For example, the Prophet used to address himself in third-person, such as in his phrase, "By the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad..."
    – Crimson
    Commented Jun 18, 2021 at 6:08
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    @Crimson The 3rd person was also discussed in another question. I think that 3rd person is also no problem if you think that the message was brought by an intermediate, Gabriel.
    – Jeschu
    Commented Jun 18, 2021 at 16:06

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I had no calm with this question either, mak a second try. The context of this passage is:

The Jews said, “Ezra is the son of God,” and the Christians said, “The Messiah is the son of God.” These are their statements, out of their mouths. They emulate the statements of those who blasphemed before. May God destroy them! How deluded they are! They have taken their rabbis and their priests as lords instead of God, as well as the Messiah son of Mary. Although they were commanded to worship none but The One God. There is no god except He. Glory be to Him; High above what they associate with Him.

The confusion is about the wow at the end 9:30:

وَقَالَتِ الْيَهُودُ عُزَيْرٌ ابْنُ اللّهِ وَقَالَتْ النَّصَارَى الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ اللّهِ ذَلِكَ قَوْلُهُم بِأَفْوَاهِهِمْ يُضَاهِؤُونَ قَوْلَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِن قَبْلُ قَاتَلَهُمُ اللّهُ أَنَّى يُؤْفَكُونَ

Grammatically, this sentence can be translated as «God has destroyed them» or «May God destroy them», perhaps also «God used to destroy them».

The same formulation

قَاتَلَهُمُ اللّهُ أَنَّى يُؤْفَكُونَ

is also found in Quran 63:4 (referring to hypocrites). I first had a look onto various translations (not only English). They vary a lot;

Saheeh International:

9:30, 63:4 May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?


9:30 May God assail them! How deceived they are! 63:4 God condemns them; how deluded they are!

Wahidduddin Khan:

9:30 May God destroy them! How far astray they have been led! 63:4 The curse of God be upon them! How they turn away!


9:30, 63:4 God do battle with them! How are they misguided!


9:30 Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they! 63:4 Allah confound them. How they are perverted!

Most translations follow Saheeh International, some put it into present positive (like Itani in 63:4, and Pickthall 9:30), once I found past tense (Pickthall 63:4).

«God fights against them» does not fit the grammar form.

«God has destroyed them» (I never found) does not fit well either because then they would not exist any more.

The translation of Pickthall would make sense in both criteria, but I think «confound» is quite an uncommon translation for قَاتَلَ.

Finally, I think, «May God destroy them» is correct. However, it should not be interpreted as a wish directed to God but rather like «Let God destroy them at the time. Give up to persuade them or to make them repent.»

It also fits well to the hypocrites in 63:4 as it is impossible to talk to someone about a problem that he denies. So let them see..

As to the context of 9:30, the Prophet was told that he cannot persuade the people had around him and to leave it to God to punish them.

(Remark: it needn't be impossible today; I already persuaded a Christian to pray to God, not to Jesus)

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