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I was reading up on shirk and came across this. http://from.the.depths.of.darkness.into.light.over-blog.com/article-answer-on-the-ambiguity-about-the-obedience-and-following-in-shirk-122974582.html

The definition of TAGHUT in the Shariah is ‘anyone who exceeds the proper limits by ascribing to himself any of the rights of Allah (Subhana wa ta‘ala) and makes himself a partner with Allah (Subhana wa ta‘ala)’

Obedience to the legislation of the Taghut, because it’s (law) from the Taghut. This is shirk in obedience to the Taghut, because this obedience recognizes the right of the legislation and the duty to submit to it.

"For example, if the law of the Taghut obligates us to stop for a red light and we obey by obedience to the Taghut, than we commit shirk in obedience. But if we obey for another reason, for example to avoid an accident, we won’t commit shirk, nor a sin."

Can someone explain this to me.

  • Please define Taghut or the way the website you referred to defines. – a_fan Sep 29 '17 at 5:33
  • The definition of TAGHUT in the Shariah is ‘anyone who exceeds the proper limits by ascribing to himself any of the rights of Allah (Subhana wa ta‘ala) and makes himself a partner with Allah (Subhana wa ta‘ala)’ – Alwaysconfused Sep 29 '17 at 6:24
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    The given example just shows that these people whom wrote the article want to declare anything which is not Islamic and in the Muslim tradition as illegal haram and shirk. But according to shari'a we are asked to respect our contracts, once you live in a foreign country you by default accept the laws which means you have to respect them. Also note in logic there's a rule saying: "ex falso quodlibet". – Medi1Saif Sep 29 '17 at 8:31
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    The definition of shirk is, to associate someone or something with Allah in Worship. Obeying the law of the land does not mean , I worship the legislator of that law. – Noor Sep 29 '17 at 9:44
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    "Obedience to the legislation of the Taghut, because it’s (law) from the Taghut. This is shirk in obedience to the Taghut, because this obedience recognizes the right of the legislation and the duty to submit to it." is a non-sequitur. You can perfectly well keep to rules where you don't consider the lawgiver to have the authority to make the rule, as a simple matter of pragmatism and prudence. – G. Bach Sep 29 '17 at 10:56
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In Islam, it is mandated that a person wanting to be a muslim must disbeleive and reject thaghuth (Negation) and beleive in Allah (affirmation).These are the two conditions of shahaadah also apparent by the term "Lailaha Illallah" (There is no god- negation) (Except Allah- Affirmation).

"So whoever disbelieves in Taghoot and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it" (Baqarah-256)"

"And We certainly sent, into every nation a messenger, [saying], "Worship Allah and avoid Taghooth."(Al Nahl:36)

Thaghuth in simple terms means, anything worshipped, obeyed or followed other than Allah. There are 5 main categories of Thaghooth.

1.Shaitan- Shaitan is the leader of thawagheeth (plural) as Allah says

"Did I not enjoin upon you, O children of Adam, that you not worship Satan - [for] indeed, he is to you a clear enemy" (Yaseen:60)

2.The ruler who legislates his own laws or rules by laws other than of Allah.

"Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut, while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray"(Nisa:60)

"Legislation is not but for Allah (i.e. for Allah alone). He has commanded that you worship not except Him. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know."(Yosuf:40)

For example the rulers who rule with their nation with monarchies or democracy by rejecting the islamic way of governence.

  1. The judge who judges by other than the laws of Allah.

"And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers"(Ma'idah:44)

For example the judges who pass judgements based on mad made laws,tribal & cultural laws etc by rejecting the laws of Allah.

4.Those who claim to have knowledge of unseen

"And with Him are the keys of the unseen; none knows them except Him. And He knows what is on the land and in the sea. Not a leaf falls but that He knows it. And no grain is there within the darknesses of the earth and no moist or dry [thing] but that it is [written] in a clear record."(An'Aam:59)

  1. The one who accepts to be worhipped besides Allah.

"And whoever of them should say, "Indeed, I am a god besides Him"- that one We would recompense with Hell. Thus do We recompense the wrongdoers."(Anbiyaa:29)

Based on this, anything which contrdicts the fundamental beliefs of Islam should be rejected. Otherwise a person may fall into shirk by submitting and being obedient to them.This may include legislating new laws besides the laws of Allah, replacing the laws of Allah, referring to thaguth courts for judgement, following the laws of thaguth which Allah made haram etc.

A person may not fall into shirk by submitting to these laws in cases of compulsion or out of an extreme necessity.(please refer this source to understand what may come under cases of necessity- https://islamqa.info/en/130815) For example, It is obligatory in many countries to have a vehicle insurance which is a branch of riba, to drive a vehicle or they may force you to pay a tax to the state which is not something from Islam and other wise you may have to face consequences. In these cases one can do them out of necessity by not giving the right to legislate to anyone except Allah and reject these thaghut by heart.

Other than that, laws such as administrative laws, traffic laws etc do not contradict the fundamentals of Islam. They are a way to keep society in order and does not have anything to do with belief.So following these laws does not fall under kufr or shirk.

  • So if you call a police officer when your house gets robbed and they catch the criminal. Obviously the judging isn't going to be judigng based allahs laws. Are we falling into shirk... – Alwaysconfused Nov 2 '17 at 22:29
  • So in that case, literally everyone that goes to a non Islamic court, is falling under shirk...confusing. – Alwaysconfused Nov 2 '17 at 22:44
  • The general ruling of going to the court is Shirk and considered as seeking judgement by means other than of Allah. However out of unavoidable circumstances where you may be compelled to go the court because there are no other means to attain your need, like in the case you mentioned above, it may not fall under shirk. and the principle for that is mentioned in the original answer – Ahmed Nov 6 '17 at 1:05
  • ** 2 pillars of the shahadah not conditions - there are seven conditions and this is by ijm'a also mention a few examples of following laws in which a person can fall into shirk – user19903 Dec 12 '17 at 19:41
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As a general rule, it's reported that the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "there is no obedience to the creation in disobedience to the Creator" (Ahmad). These kinds of administrative laws to keep society in order from speed limits to red lights, etc... these do not contradict the Command of Allah (ﷻ) so there is no Shirk/Kufr involved.

(IF we assumed the writer of that site was correct, it would mean that no country could make any laws on traffic etc.. including our own Muslim countries because such laws are not specifically from the Qur'an. Obviously, this is not correct).

It's when Taghout order that which contradicts the Command of Allah (ﷻ) when they are not to be obeyed. eg, Allah (ﷻ) commands prayer; if Taghout implement a "no prayer" policy then that is obviously not acceptable to follow for a Muslim; it would be shirk to voluntarily obey them in that.. when the Almighty Creator enjoined prayer.

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