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I never really understood the nature behind Allah's will. If everything happens by Allah's will, then that's like saying a muslim stopped believing became an atheist because Allah willed it. Then why is it the muslim's fault? If Allah punished this person for leaving Islam, then doesn't that make Allah a bit sadistic? Because it was Allah who made this person leave Islam in the first place. He was under Allah's control and Allah led him astray on purpose and punished him on purpose. If Allah controls our actions and our fate, then how is life even a test? I though humans had free will. If our actions are controlled by Allah, then how are we any different from the animals?

I heard another interpretation that Allah doesn't control our actions. We are free to make our own decisions. If a person commits a sin, it's not because Allah willed it. It's because the person willed it. Allah just watched him commit the sin. Allah had no control over this person's actions.

So I'm not exactly sure which one's the correct view. Please clarify it for me please.

I really hope it's the first one. I hope everything that I do and think is controlled by Allah. As of now, this will bring me peace.

EDIT: There's another thing I wanted to add. I've heard some muslims say that if you make dua, you're changing your destiny? But how? If nothing happens except by Allah's will, then our destiny should be pre-set. So what do muslims mean when they say dua can change your destiny?

  • I posted this and this as questions on closely related topics; it proved difficult to track down anything relevant on these issues. Starting here (until clicking "next day" twice) I had a conversation with Medi1Saif about this, it didn't get resolved but might still be interesting. – G. Bach Mar 22 '17 at 14:57
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Allah's will is all encompassing. If we make any choice in life or do anything, it doesn't mean that we have surpassed Allah's will. There are things we cannot change and that is Allah's will and there is a room given to us where we can change ourselves or impact the surroundings and that is also within the circle of Allah's will. Keeping the unchangeable part aside, even in the changeable world all our efforts can result in a fail and it's possible that our efforts may result in rewards far greater than our imaginations. All is within the Will of Allah, who is just to all. We have our own scales of justice and Allah has It's own. We are shortsighted and jump to the conclusion. Allah knows everything, from the very beginning of creation till its doom. How can we understand the working and will of Allah without knowing the whole context of any happening. Nothing happens in a vacuum, but it has a long past, apparent present and expected future. Any thing or any happening is placed in the whole universe as an integral part of the universe. To understand that very thing and incident fully we need to know the whole of its past, present and future and its particular placement in the universe. To make it simple, we see a thing or event but do not understand its full context, hence cannot pass a judgement.

What I meant to say was that as a human being we are not immediately faced with the question of pre-determination in everyday life. This is also not one of the questions to be asked in the life hereafter. Because Allah wants us to be attached with him and to ask from him alone in case of any kind of need. Daily we confront situations where we have to make choices or we are facing an affair and have no knowledge of the outcome. This is our practical difficulty, that we have to overcome in this worldly life every day and every hour. Islam is a practical religion. Without the will and help of Allah we cannot make a right choice. Let's say we want to change an old habit. This requires a strong will power and at every step we need the help of Allah to accomplish his task. If Allah doesn't help us we will again fall to the old habit, despite efforts and sacrifices we already made. If we sincerely seek the help of Allah we will surely be helped. This is what Allah wants from us, to look to him every time we are making life choices. But if we don't do this, then it has no impact on Allah. It will affect us of course. Allah doesn't need us but we need Him.

"Qadr" means 'measure' and 'in due proportion' and 'determination' and 'power' and 'planning' and 'estimation' and 'time-period' and 'decree'. Allah has created everything and measured and put everything in due proportion in the time and space and he hasn't left the creation on its own. He is governing everything in every point of time and He is nourishing and listening and responding to what the creation does or what it demands. What the whole creation will do till its doom, is known by Allah and he wrote it in the form of Qadr. Allah knows that a particular person will make good choices in life and he wrote it down and He knew that a person would make bad choices and he wrote it down. Now to say that the person is following this Qadr, and not making decisions on it's own is a cleaner misconception. Allah has the knowledge and He put it down in a book. But what was the need of writing all this. The reply of this question is in Aya 22 and 23 of Sura e Hadid (57). I was written for balancing the life of a Man in the times of pain and pleasure that " ye may not despair what has eluded you and not exult at what He has given you". It keeps you steady when you lose in life and keeps you in limits when you win, by reverting to "Sabr" in loss and "Shukr" in gain.

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I never really understood the nature behind Allah's will. If everything happens by Allah's will, then that's like saying a muslim stopped believing became an atheist because Allah willed it. Then why is it the muslim's fault? If Allah punished this person for leaving Islam, then doesn't that make Allah a bit sadistic? Because it was Allah who made this person leave Islam in the first place. He was under Allah's control and Allah led him astray on purpose and punished him on purpose. If Allah controls our actions and our fate, then how is life even a test? I though humans had free will. If our actions are controlled by Allah, then how are we any different from the animals?

Everything happens by Allah's will for sure, but Allah has given the human the choice if he wants he do good things and follow right path or if he wants he may follow wrong path and do sins, so humans have free will to choose and everything a human is going to do is written in the book (loh-e-mahfooz).

If you choose to follow right path then Allah has let you choose(your will) the right path as he is the one who will give hidaya and we ask in all our salath to make us follow the right path(sure alhamd). And if you choose to follow the wrong path then Allah has let you choose it(your will) and if he wants he may stop you to follow the wrong path if somebody prays for you (parents, friends etc..)

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Lets consider I am owner of a company without my will no one can take the decision but I have given choice for few of my employees to take the decision if they want they can take the good decision if they want they will take the bad decision if they do good I will reward them if they do bad I will catch them for that..

Allama Siyuti Rahmatullahi ta-aala Alai, has written a very good example in one of his book..it is as follows

There was a person walking around a farm house of mangoes, he saw mangoes on the tree he went inside and started eating the mangoes suddenly the owner of farm house came and started yelling at him, but the person said "Hey you illiterate don't you know this is written in the lohe-mahfooz (a book which speak) and its because of Allah's will, after few minutes of thinking the owner went inside brought a stick and started hitting him, when the person was shouting he said don't shout now its written in lohe-mahfooz (a book which speak) and its because Allah azwajal's will.

So the moral of the narration is if you do good you will be rewarded and you do sin you will be punished and its your will what you want to do, you can't do sin and say that I am doing as its already written...

  • Down voter Please add comment and correct me... – Ali786 Mar 22 '17 at 14:51
  • I downvoted because it doesn't address the apparent (and possibly actual) contradiction between free will and qadr. – G. Bach Mar 22 '17 at 14:58
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    If everything happens by Allah's will then there's no opportunity to choose because anything we "choose" was predetermined by Allah's will. For example if Allah wants someone to live until that person dies of natural causes no one should be able to choose to kill that person because it's not what Allah wanted. The same can be said about anything else. If "Allah has let you choose the right path" then it wasn't your choice to begin with since you only could do it because Allah let you. Can you explain how something can be your choice if everything has to happen according to Allah's will? – The Raven Queen Mar 23 '17 at 8:30
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    You are not only the owner of the company, you made the company, the workers, you decided everything about the workers life, what has happened to them and what will happen to them. Everything they do happens because you willed it to be that way. Did they really have a choice then? Not really. – The Raven Queen Mar 23 '17 at 9:03
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    The other story also doesn't address the actual problem. It was Allah's will that the person took the mangoes because everything is Allah's will. So that person did something bad because Allah willed it that way, not because the person chose to. Otherwise, if it was actually the person choosing to do something then not everything can be Allah's will because he cannot control everything that happens, so there could be things happeneing against his will. – The Raven Queen Mar 23 '17 at 9:09

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