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What did Prophet Muhammad (PUBH) mean by “Seek knowledge even as far as China"? What type of knowledge is this? Though this line doesn't sound so prophetic... Does anybody have further knowledge on it?

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    Oops, @Nadia Ali, interesting and in truth profitable tradition. In addition to its English translation, as its Arabic sentence: (almost): اطلبوا العلم ولو بالصین) / Your profitable question would be better if you add its origin Arabic hadith as well. – اللهم صل علی محمد و آل محمد Oct 27 '15 at 7:27
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The hadith "Seek Knowledge even if you have to go as far as china" is fabricated and does not exist. The actual hadith is:

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Seeking knowledge is obligatory upon every Muslim.’” (220. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Ibn Maajah)

I can confirm this from our local imam as well who said, he had read many hadith books but could not come across this one. Another reference is is here - Islamqa.

There are in fact other hadiths as well which were fabricated. I don't think they were fabricated with ill intentions but merely they enhanced the positivity of a hadith or event.

  • i see.. thank. but people shouldn't fabricate Prophet Muhammad's sayings. these make use confused.. and we don't get the actual essence.. – Nadia Ali Feb 20 '15 at 13:52
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First of all, I don’t intend to state concerning its authenticity. Since seemingly some groups confirm it and some other groups deny it. But the significant point which I ought to mention is that its concept demonstrate that how much Islam is paying heed to the issue of Science. As I pointed out, its Arabic sentence almost or even accurately is as following hadith:

اطلبوا العلم ولو بالصین

Seek knowledge even as far as China


In the meanwhile, I found another similar tradition which is narrated from Imam Jafar-al-Sadiq --peace be upon him-- as the six Imam of Shia said:

اُطلبوا العلم وَلو بخوض اللُّجَج

Seek knowledge even as far as going to the depths of seas. بحارالانوار 71/ 277


Conclusion:

It can demonstrate that obtaining the science or Elem has a very high importance from the view of Islam as what the apostle of Allah peace be upon him and his household said that “Seek knowledge even as far as China”. Of course rationally and actually logically its meaning can be related to the Naafe’ or beneficent sciences which are profitable and useful for the humans not every science. That based on the above-mentioned hadith is can be inferred that it is even worth of while if you have to take trip to far places in order to achieve science.


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I am not sure if this is a hadeeth but never the less the meaning is that knowledge is not always with one person and so we should share what we know and learn from each other. We should always try to learn more even if means traveling far away.

  • knowledge is not always with one person and so we should share what we know and learn from eachother.--very good point bro! thanks! – Nadia Ali Feb 21 '15 at 5:38
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This is undoubtedly a fabrication. I highly doubt the Arabs at that time knew of China. The furthest East they were aware of was India due to the spice trade. The Arabs only discovered China during the Ummayad conquests.

  • yes, i was doubting so, it doesn't sound prophetic, – Nadia Ali Feb 20 '15 at 13:50
  • On the contrary you'll find the oldest mosque in China is by one of the companions, so don't doubt 'the Arabs knew of China'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huaisheng_Mosque – Abu Nooh Aug 21 '16 at 23:26
  • Are you sure? I mean even the Romans (at the time of the republic) knew about the chinese silk! – Medi1Saif Oct 5 '16 at 10:19
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I'm not sure whether the hadith mentioned is sahih or daif and so on... but I've heard it. I've manage to found 3 points from this hadith. 1) Because of the distance... the important of knowledge 2) China is 1 of the earliest civilization... so there is knowledge in China 3) China has been stated as first who invented paper... source to record knowledge & expand it.😆

والله أعلم

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Un-Ploughed Fields Make Hollow Bellies; un-Read Books Make Hollow Minds! (By Confucius)

So, Seek To Read; Read To Learn; Learn To Lead; Lead To Serve; Serve To Succeed! (Found on Poster Showing Holy Qur'an)( I don't know who printed the poster)

This is my understanding of the meaning of Muhammed's Hadis

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“Perhaps, its status is rectified to Hasan on account of its wide circulation, ” reasoning that an outright forgery wouldn’t have reached such wide circulation amongst the Muslims.

Authenticity of ‘Seek knowledge even as far as China’ | Islam in China https://islaminchina.wordpress.com/2007/11/06/authenticity-of-seek-knowledge-even-as-far-as-china/

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