Some Shiites believes that Umar (Arabic: عمر بن الخطاب, translit.: `Umar ibn Al-Khattāb) the second caliphate declared a famous sayings which designated on outranking and overriding of Ali.

I want to know first do Sunnis accept the sayings? if yes how they interpret it? the saying is as follow:" Umar said:

if was not Ali , I will be killed undoubtedly

We want to know more about Sunni's attitude about the saying. now here I mention some sources among Sunni and Shiite referred to the saying:

Sunni source:

  • Ibn Qutaybah,Tavil Mokhtalaf Al HAdith,p.152

  • Taftazani,sharhe Maqasid, vol.2,p.294

  • Fakhr Razi, Tafsir KAbir,vol.21,p.22

Shiite source:

  • Sheikh Koleini, al Kafi , vol.7.p 424
  • sheikh Tousi,TAhzib,vol.6.p606

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  • What famous sayings? As written, this question is just too vague to be answerable; I would recommend you go through the advice in our help centre: "How Do I Ask a Good Question?" – goldPseudo Jul 22 '14 at 15:44
  • it is very popular sayings among Muslim that UMar al Khattab Said such a saying. as it is clear, there is no pay attention to the question mentioned above. of course again I repeat the question in detail box. – Ya Mahdi Jul 22 '14 at 16:15
  • I for one never heard this saying, and i am a sunni – Anas Jul 23 '14 at 6:44