Can anyone explain more about this saying of Imam Ali (from Nahjul-balagha):

مَعَ کُلِّ شَیْء لا بِمُقارَنَة، وَ غَیْرُ کُلَّ شَیْء لا بِمُزایَلَة

He is with everything but not in nearness. He is different from everything but not in separation.

  • Philosophy would love this question. Jan 30, 2014 at 19:27
  • Please mention the source of this saying by editing the question. Jan 30, 2014 at 19:35
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    @Bleeding Fingers ,you can ask it there!
    – abdolah
    Jan 30, 2014 at 20:18

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Simply Allah is everywhere without being somewhere in the way other objects are said to be somewhere, since He has no alike; and Allah is different from the other objects without the objects ever existing without Him, so He is different without being separated from the other objects.

This example may help better understand this. If I am a student in a classroom, the teacher is teaching and I am thinking about my laptop in my room, then physically I am there in the classroom but I am not really there with all my consciousness, so the teacher speaks and I don't hear without pushing my fingers into my ears, my eyes see the teacher but my brain doesn't understand what the eyes see. Physically being somewhere and noticing (توجه) the environment is different. Allah is the Creator, according to Imam Sadiq peace be upon him He creates so how it be possible that He don't know (according to at least some Shia philosophers creation of Allah is continuous so we don't have anything like "creation+maintenance" but only creation from instant to instant, always renewing all the creation). His knowledge about everything thus is fresh, comprehensive and exhaustive, so Him being conscious, having His will and power, being existed and Alive can be considered for everywhere and together with everything that exists, but obviously that doesn't imply that Allah is positioned in every positions. Similarly an example about how is the creation of Allah is that consider your image in a mirror. Your image is an imaginary image, it doesn't exist in reality but still an observer can describe its quality. About the creation of Allah only Allah exists as independent of anything else, but His creation exists only upto His existence, if there is no God there will be no creation, like the image of you in the mirror, it exists as long as you are there in front of the mirror. So the image in the mirror and everything that exist (creatures of Allah) depend on another existences, they are not separated beings but they are different things.

And Allah is the All knower.


The most important role that Imam Ali (as) has played in Nahj al-Balaghah is the rational depiction of the essence of the divine sanctuary. In a part of the first sermon of Nahj al-Balaghah, he says about the existence of the Almighty: (کـائـن لاعـن حدث موجود لاعن عدم. مع کل شیء لا بمقارنه و غیر کل شـیء لابـمزایله. فاعل لا بمعنی الحرکات و الآله بصیر اذ لا منظور الـیـه من خلقه).(1) God exists not by chance; That is, its existence does not precede non-existence, but is eternal, it has no beginning. He exists, but his existence did not arise from non-existence, but he is the same as existence. Is it possible for non-existence to arise from non-existence while there is no contradiction of existence? A community of paradoxes is impossible; Just as its height is impossible. Moreover, (non-existence) can never be the (cause) of creation, because it is the opposite of existence and the negation of existence, and there is no consistency. The Creator of the universe is associated with everything, because deprivation equals extinction. That is, it is associated with everything and always bestows grace It exists and lives. The lamp needs a power plant to illuminate, it also depends on the continuity of the lighting. (مـع کـل شیء لابمقارنه .(2) He accompanies everything, but not that he is with him. (وغـیـر کـل شیء لا بمزایله (3)؛ And other than anything, but not in the form of extinction.) It is an agent, but not like other actors who need hands and feet to create work; Rather, the will of the truth is equal to the realization of the act. The Qur'an says: Whenever he wants something and says exist, he will exist without distance. He is insightful and aware in his works, because his purpose in creation is not personal gain; Rather, he wants the grace of his existence to reach all creatures. He is one and only, because there is no fixed being to associate with. Anis and Mons are all creatures, but they do not need love and affection. Do not be afraid of missing something. PS:

  1. Nahj al-Balaghah, the same. 2.Haman
  2. Haman
  3. Yasin verse 82
  4. Nahj al-Balaghah, Haman
  5. Haman
  6. Haman

We can answer to this good question after explaining some points:

First, since that the god is infinite and without any boundaries therefore the infinite include finite things. According to imam Ali’s Hikmat (widom) the god as infinite being encompasses all other things. Other beings as contingents are dependent in terms of their being to god as necessary being.

Second, god has many different adjectives like above. some adjectives explain negative dimensions like material ,finite etc. and others explain positive dimensions like necessity, perfect being.

When imam ail piece be upon him talks about mogharanah it means that god is not a material thing though it is thing like other things and when we say the god is along with things namely the god as infinite thing include other things. More study see: Ayatollah Javadi AMOLI, ALAVI WISDOM,RESEARCHER:SAEED BAND ALI,ESRA PUBLICATION.QOM IRAN

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    Please improve the grammar. And yeah, welcome to Islam. Jan 30, 2014 at 21:24
  • Sorry I cannot easily follow you, what do you mean Allah is infinity and infinity include finite things. You have forgotten that Allah is not a compound object or I am missing a point?
    – owari
    Jan 31, 2014 at 21:27
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    .its a a good question owari.by infinite I mean god has no any quiddity(mahyyah).in other word the god has no boundary .even there is anything which limit the god. i know that the god is not compound since that we said such a adjectives are negative namely we have to negate them of god.
    – user4218
    Feb 1, 2014 at 12:31

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