Timeline for What excactly is the difference between kufr and shirk?
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| Nov 11 at 14:30 | comment | added | Syed M. Sannan | I will point out, on a secondary note, that this matter changes where there is difference of opinion of what the Sunnis deem to be qat'i matters, which in turn, results in the existence of sects. A sunni isn't allowed to pray behind a shi'a exactly because they disagree on some fundamental matters that lead the Sunni to declare the Shi'a as heretical or disbeliever depending on what opinion the sunni follows and the kind of Shi'a, and vice versa as well. Same applies for other sects. They are sects to begin with because they disagree with each other on qat'i matters. The 4 school of law don't. | |
| Nov 11 at 14:26 | comment | added | Syed M. Sannan | Based on that, none of the Islamic schools of jurisprudence in Sunni Islam (Hanbali, Shafi'i, Maliki, and Hanafi) disagree on any qat'i matters as the methodology of both of those schools of jurisprudence is aligned with regards to those. The disagreement is only present in matters of the second category for which there is no blame on any. In fact, a Hanafi is allowed to pray salat behind a Shafi'i, and vice versa, because even if one considers their way to be more correct, they consider the other's worship as valid due to reason of difference of opinion and then its honest scholarship. (3/3) | |
| Nov 11 at 14:23 | comment | added | Syed M. Sannan | In those matters, a scholar can derive what they consider to be correct based on their reasons, follow it, and tell others to follow it, and none of them is sinful for following it even if the matter actually turns out to be incorrect later on, say, on the judgment day. This is an established aspect in the rules of jurisprudence. But if a person disagrees on matters that are under the heading of qat'i, then they risk themselves falling out of the fold of Islam. (2/3) | |
| Nov 11 at 14:21 | comment | added | Syed M. Sannan | @GyroGearloose They do not. There are certain matters that, if I remember the term right, are mentioned as "qat'i" by scholars, as in, being explicitly elaborated directly in the Quran and Hadith with zero valid difference of opinion ever being there, such as the fact that Allah is one, or that angels exist, or that Quran is the speech of Allah. And then there are matters in which there is difference of opinion and research by later scholars for a number of reasons, such as ahadith that appear to mention different contents with similar chain, for example. (1/3) | |
| Sep 21 at 19:51 | comment | added | Gyro Gearloose | The main point in my comment was not about kufr itself, but abut the reasons to call others kufr. Say some schools of Islam differ on what is halal to eat, or in which situations (of emergency) it is halal or haram to eat. Each on thinks he is the the possession of truth (that is the essence of believe as such, wrong or right), so they two call each others kufr? Hopefully not! | |
| Sep 20 at 22:09 | comment | added | goldPseudo | @GyroGearloose I don't know if there's difference of opinion on kufr itself, but I do know that there's some debate around scales of kufr, i.e. major kufr that makes one no longer a Muslim vs minor kufr that is sinful but forgiveable. | |
| Sep 20 at 16:02 | comment | added | Gyro Gearloose | This is a good and understandable answer. However, it leaves room for debate. For example, could the different schools of Islam call each other "kufr" because what one holds for truth is rejected by the other? I see it is a matter of degree, but that would be another question. | |
| Sep 20 at 15:54 | vote | accept | Gyro Gearloose | ||
| Sep 19 at 22:06 | history | answered | goldPseudo | CC BY-SA 4.0 |