Timeline for Permissibility to kill all adult males
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| Oct 16, 2023 at 9:24 | comment | added | UmH♦ | As for your second comment that is off topic. However I have an answer on that verse on this site. You can search it. | |
| Oct 16, 2023 at 9:24 | comment | added | UmH♦ | (ii) It is permissible to offer the Ahl al-Kitab prisoners the 5th option which I have listed in the answer i.e. Jizyah whereas this option is not available for use on other than the Ahl al-Kitab and Zoroastrians according to some madhabs such as the Shafi'is and Hanbalis. | |
| Oct 16, 2023 at 9:24 | comment | added | UmH♦ | @RussellMcMahon This question is about what can be done with the prisoners after a war. It applies to Ahl al-Kitab as well indeed Banu Quraiza in the above quoted hadith were Ahl al-Kitab. Other than that I can think of only two things to say: (i) War can be averted from the Ahl al-Kitab if they agree to pay Jizyah and become Dhimmis - like in the Conquest of Jerusalem in the caliphate of Umar ibn al-Khattab. However that is not relevant here as we are talking about the situation where war has already occured and been won through use of force. | |
| Oct 16, 2023 at 9:10 | comment | added | Russell McMahon | Also, how does your answer relate to اِنَّ الَّذِيۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا وَالَّذِيۡنَ هَادُوۡا وَالصَّابِـُٔـوۡنَ وَالنَّصٰرٰى مَنۡ اٰمَنَ بِاللّٰهِ وَالۡيَوۡمِ الۡاٰخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحًـا فَلَا خَوۡفٌ عَلَيۡهِمۡ وَلَا هُمۡ يَحۡزَنُوۡنَ ? | |
| Oct 16, 2023 at 4:51 | comment | added | Russell McMahon | Can you add comment on how your answer applies to أهل الكتاب? | |
| Oct 9, 2023 at 15:43 | history | edited | UmH♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 9, 2023 at 14:36 | comment | added | An_Elephant | @Abunaza I agree with shafeek. It's your mistake to associate peace with emotions , perhaps hoping that it would weaken the argument ? The verses here are indeed taken out of context and even is contradictory to one of the popular question closely related to violence and quran. | |
| Oct 9, 2023 at 0:45 | comment | added | Shafeek | @Abunaza Islam is based on what Quran and Sunnah of prophet ﷺ, I appreciate the efforts of different imams and scholars but their opinion and jurisprudence books can never over take Quran and Sunnah. | |
| Oct 8, 2023 at 20:13 | comment | added | user56122 | @Shafeek maybe read a little on the classical islamic jurisprudence books from different madhhabs and learn about what they said , especially on book of jihad, islam is built upon what Allah said and what his prophet ﷺ said, if you involve your emotions and desires into it then you are setting yourself into failure. | |
| Oct 8, 2023 at 10:45 | comment | added | Shafeek | did you deliberately remove parts of Quran 2:191. The parts that are removed says "and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter." | |
| Oct 8, 2023 at 9:23 | history | edited | UmH♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 8, 2023 at 8:08 | comment | added | goldPseudo | @Shafeek 9:5 isn't being taken out of context here; it indicates that, at least for that particular situation, the killing was commanded, and it is being used as evidence that such killing remains a permissible (not necessarily recommended or obligatory) option in the general case since Allah allowed it here and didn't explicitly forbid or abrogate it afterwards. The treaty exception is irrelevant since the question is clearly asking about the scenario where a people are already conquered by Muslims, which wouldn't happen if there was a treaty. | |
| Oct 8, 2023 at 6:40 | comment | added | Shafeek | don't quote verses out of context like non muslims do 9:5 is not license to kill all non muslims, just read verse before and after that, it is clear that it is regarding some polythiest who didn't adhere to treaty, quran says to continue with treaty for those who didn't break it in 9:4 | |
| Oct 8, 2023 at 6:03 | history | answered | UmH♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |