Timeline for Covenant of Prophets? can someone explain this ayat
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| Oct 24, 2023 at 17:18 | comment | added | Ahmed | @Medi1Saif To elucidate my point. I believe the hadith when it mentions Prophets that will come "with" X number of people or none. The word "with" in my opinion is a reference to followers which are mentioned later in the hadith in reference to Musa and Muhammad (Peace and Blessings Be Upon Them) followers. So I guess it's the way you look at the hadith. | |
| Oct 24, 2023 at 17:05 | comment | added | Ahmed | @Medi1Saif You mentioned that a Prophet's job/duty is not to spread ALLAAH's message. However, the hadith states that some Prophets will have followers (various sizes) and some will not have any. So this would indicate that a Prophet's job is to spread whatever knowledge they do have to their people. Not only wait for people to ask them. But to proactively teach it to others. | |
| Oct 24, 2023 at 15:33 | comment | added | Medi1Saif♦ | @Ahmed and where do you think this disagrees with my words? The hadith actually emphasizes its correctness because, if it was differently they would have a higher amount of "followers" or better "believers" in their company. | |
| Oct 24, 2023 at 14:42 | comment | added | Ahmed | As Salaamu 3laykum, I would disagree with this part: "Prophets unlike Messengers actually don't have the duty to spread Allah's message, even if they may get revelation (wahy), their duty is to live according to the message at hands and apply it in their daily life and (only) teach it when asked -so they don't need to be actively preaching!" Because in Bukhari: "he Prophet (ﷺ) once came out to us and said, "Some nations were displayed before me. A prophet would pass in front of me with one man, and another with two men, and another with a group of people. and another with nobody with him." | |
| Sep 14, 2018 at 12:04 | comment | added | ikram0459 | one more point 3/41-44 - here Marium(AS) got news from Angels about Isa(AS) 19/16-18 - here Mariums(AS) met angel that looks like human and gave good news. If Allah can send any Angel that can give news that looks like human, so it may be possible that Allah sent a angel messenger that looks like human that can take covenant / confirmation of scripture and can communicate with Prophet(AS) / Person like Marium(AS). what you think? | |
| Sep 14, 2018 at 11:52 | comment | added | ikram0459 | Communication is mentioned in ayat. They said, Allah said, He said.... how you will explain last part: He said: "Then bear witness; and I am with you among the witnesses (for this)." who is that HE in this? communication looks like physical meeting, isn't it? | |
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| Sep 14, 2018 at 11:44 | comment | added | Medi1Saif♦ | @ikram0459 you seem to insist on a physical meeting while Allah can just inform them via wahy that a Messneger has been sent or they may hear of him. The Messenger doesn't need to go and gather each prophet of his time it works the other way! | |
| Sep 14, 2018 at 11:33 | comment | added | ikram0459 | thanks - nice breakdown :) just a lil comment "then there comes to you a messenger confirming what is with you" - here Allah talks about messenger so it must be Messenger that is meeting Prophet. Prophets are humans and Messengers are either Prophet/Humans/Jinn/Angels (ref: 22/75, 6/130) There is no human or Prophet can go and meet each Prophet. It would be either Angel messenger or Jinn Messenger. We don't know their life span they might be living for hundreds/thousands of years. Shaitan can live thousands of years why can't any other pious Jinn/Angel/Messenger that can meet all Prophets! | |
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