Timeline for Why is it relevant that the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after Prophet Abraham, but not the Qur'an?
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| Mar 28, 2017 at 0:45 | comment | added | Thaqalain | @G.Bach from the answer "Allah revealed to the Prophet that Ibrahim was neither Jewish nor Christian (Qur'an 3:67), but a Muslim, and that the Torah and the Gospel were revealed after his time, so he could not have followed either (Qur'an 3:65)." This is a good note to consider | |
| Mar 26, 2017 at 22:13 | comment | added | G. Bach | The question suggests to me that that's how OP perceives the parallel as well. | |
| Mar 26, 2017 at 22:12 | comment | added | G. Bach | An Muslim as opposed to kafir/mushrik is someone who follows the teachings of Muhammad. There's a meaning in the sense of who you follow, and a meaning about what your theology is. In the latter sense, Christians will argue Abraham followed the correct Christian theology, and Jews will argue he followed the correct Jewish theology. I've seen both claims by Christians and Jews, respectively. The Catholic Church calls him their "Father in Faith", as do the Jews. They will call him "Christian" or "Jew" in the same sense as the Quran calls him a "Muslim", as belonging to the 'correct' monotheism. | |
| Mar 26, 2017 at 21:37 | comment | added | III-AK-III | @G.Bach, The question was about Qur'an, hence the elaboration on the Qur'an side. It still resolves the issue for as per Christianity, one has to at least follow the 325 AD Nicene Creed, which Ibrahim did not as he was before Jesus and did not believe Jesus to be the son of God, etc., so he could not have been Christian. According to Judiasm, one has to be Yehudi (descendant of Judah), or Yehudim (People of God), or at least have converted to Judaism and followed the teachings of Moses, which again Ibrahim could not have done as he was before Moses. | |
| Mar 26, 2017 at 21:02 | comment | added | G. Bach | I don't see how this resolves the issue: "The fact that the Qur'an was revealed after Ibrahim is irrelevant since the term "Muslims" does not refer solely to followers of Qur'an or Prophet Muhammad, but to followers of Allah and his message at the time" - the Jews and Christians could rationalize calling Ibrahim a Jew or a Christian in exactly the same way. | |
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| Mar 26, 2017 at 16:29 | history | answered | III-AK-III | CC BY-SA 3.0 |