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I know this is an obvious question, but i usually find some stories bias. Please include resources to back-up your opinion.

ok taking a very basic example...women can't look at the moon. and we shouldn't go outside after its magjib time. And men can do both of those. Also, there is an american friend and she is really into women's right(usually catholic women's right)....and whenever i talk to her, she mentions that muslim women in other countries don't have rights. For example, she says in saudi women can't drive. And we have to wear hijab, niqab, and abaya. I am a hijabi, so i just tell her we choose to wear hijab, in my case i was not forced. Or in saudi, women use the taxi/auto ricksha and those are the main source of transportation. But then there are news where women are mistreated with such violence and abuse...that's hard to explain. And the main reason between those mistreat is when a man thinks he is superior to a woman.

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equal in what? in rights? in shape? in weight? – Ahmadi Sep 16 '12 at 7:15
please provide examples of the bias you have witnessed – NesreenA Sep 16 '12 at 14:02
i explained it the best i can – Nightgem Sep 17 '12 at 6:42
are you sure examples you said like "women can't look at the moon" and others exist in Islam? – Ahmadi Sep 17 '12 at 6:56
yes, i am sure. My relatives are from india. Maybe its not in islam but the culture...I don't know. My grandfather says we can't go out during the night. But I suppose these sayings aren't really followed since i sometimes look at the moon (how can i not, its right above me!) and I have night classes. I assumed that everyone knew these simple stuff. But i suppose its different for each country... – Nightgem Sep 19 '12 at 5:17

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The short answer is yes and no, but to be clear, in the sense that they are both human, potentially the best creatures of Allah even of a higher position than the angels, yes they are equal:

For Muslim men and women,- for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in Charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise,- for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward. (Al-Ahzab,35)

However, it is also from Quran that Allah created every species and gave each everything that was required for it to live and experience a journey toward Allah (for human specifically: "To Allah We belong, and to Him is our return", Al-Baghareh:156; and for other alive species: "There is not any alive being on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but forms part of communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they all shall be gathered to their Lord in the end", Al-Ana'am:38):

قَالَ رَبُّنَا الَّذِي أَعْطَىٰ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ خَلْقَهُ ثُمَّ هَدَىٰ

He said: "Our Lord is He Who gave to each (created) thing its [particular] form and nature [through which it is distinguished from another thing], then gave (it) guidance." (Taahaa:50)

or:

إِنَّا كُلَّ شَيْءٍ خَلَقْنَاهُ بِقَدَرٍ

Verily, all things have We created in proportion and measure. (Al-Ghamar:49)

So that everything that is helped and guided differently it's because it has been created differently, with different natures, although sometimes the differences is as much small as one can easily categorize them in groups, like: humen, different plant groups, different animal groups like dogs and cats, viruses and et. They all have different shapes and behavior as God has created them differently so also guided them differently, each to the extent required for itself.

Now see that males and females have different bodies and even some genes and organs are different between them, then who on the earth can claim that God should have been guided them similarly as has guided males? Not even for human alone but also for plants and animals, there is always a different between males and females in the way to live, not that because males are better or females, they are just different, although in that they are all humen being, or animal or plant, are simialr and equal.

In humen specifically, women are created in a way and men are created in another way, their bodies which their soul should use here in this world in the journey toward Allah is just different, so should be their souls. To put is differently, if the souls of male and female were to be equal, their bodies required for their creation were also required to be equal (see again the Ayah's referred above), and if it is not so their souls are also different. You of course know by yourself that even psychologically men and women are different. Let me even say something more, even every male is different from another when their faces, the shap of their noses, the color of their hairs and eyes, their hight, and etc. are all different, however, it is told to us by the creator that the difference between men and women is much greater than the differences between women themselves or men themselves, so the rules expressed by Allah for men is different from those for women. But each person who acts in the way he/she is guided by Allah (required by its nature) would reach a place for human being, be it man or woman, a fat one or a tall one.

the last point, if you are still in doubt, see every human is everyday subjected to different tests, if every one was equal to the others then it was a must for their tests also to be equal, and then we had not have such a world with this much varieties. The tests for the prophets have always been more difficult than the tests for us and other common people, as their souls was different and you can see there was always a sign of prophecy in their bodies as well, like in their face or the right shoulder or etc. However, the most important thing about human being and Elves, among all the alive beings, is that they can choose to improve and that's the reason behind all the tests of Allah, going by the rules of Allah can improve one's soul and you can see this through his/her face and/or eyes (although most of the times it is hidden to our eyes as Allah is Al-Sattar, but it is stated that after death or in the judging day the hijab's would go away). The prophets all did obey Allah in every instant of their lives so should their tests be more difficult if you care.

Godspeed

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thank you. this was very helpful. i know most of this, but seeing it in words make it so much clearer. – Nightgem Sep 17 '12 at 7:00

According to Shi'a Islam , men and women have the same kind of (genderless) soul but have differences in physical bodies and psychological aspects.

Men and women have totally equal rights but not necessarily the same rights, and this is due to differences in their bodies and psychologies that makes them being not suitable for some positions in society and makes different rights.

There are many rights that women have but men don't. For example women can ask wages for breastfeeding the baby, or ask wages for working at home. Men don't have any right to demand women to breastfeed babies or work at home. Also, women own all their property.


Reference:

The book Woman And Her Rights by Ayatullah Murtada Mutahhari

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Is that really the view point of Shia Islam that two person's souls, be both male or female or of different genders are exactly equal? I do not think so. A wooden ball and a plastic ball are both equal but only in the sense that they are balls, that is, equal in some respects and different in others. Both men and women in general are the same to God in the sense of their humanity worth, but not in every respect as Allah himself has created them differently. Even human can reach the place of Angels and that doesn't mean the human soul is like that of the angels, two totally different creations. – owari Sep 16 '12 at 8:01
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I am sunni, but thanks for your answer. And i didn't know we had the same genderless soul. And asking for wages makes women sound likes servants to me... – Nightgem Sep 17 '12 at 6:48
@Nightgem Islam does not recommend asking wage. but recommend love and mercy atmosphere in family. but anyway this is a right of woman. right and recommendation are different. – Ahmadi Sep 17 '12 at 6:54
referring to 1st statement of your answer, can woman be supreme leader? – Umer Hayat Sep 17 '12 at 7:46
@UmerHayat in Shia Islam woman can not be ruler or Judge. but can be minister, manager, legal consultant, many other positions. this does not mean lower rights. because total rights of man and woman should be considered and compared. – Ahmadi Sep 17 '12 at 8:19

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